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In this episode our hosts chat with Lisa Presley about grief and religious leadership.

The VUU is hosted by Meg Riley, Michael Tino, Aisha Hauser and Christina Rivera, with production support for this episode provided by Lori Stone Sirtosky and Jessica Star Rockers. The VUU streams live on Thursdays at 11 am ET.

Note: This audio has been slightly edited for a better listening experience. View the live original recording on YouTube.