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Our hosts chatted with writer and editor Doug Muder about his UU World article “Even Acknowledging My Own Racism is Controversial”.

Link to the article: https://www.uuworld.org/articles/responding-white-defensiveness

The VUU is hosted by Meg Riley, Michael Tino, Aisha Hauser and Christina Rivera, with production support for this episode provided by Lori Stone Sirtosky and Jessica Star Rockers. The VUU streams live on Thursdays at 11 am ET.

Note: This audio has been slightly edited for a better listening experience. View the live original recording on YouTube.